Who Created the Creator? 2

How Did Creation Begin?

“Who created the Creator?” Or should we first ask: “How did creation begin?” Which is more precise?

If we want a logical answer to the question “Who created the Creator?”, we must first shift our focus and ask a prior question: “How did creation begin?”

Do You Agree That Creation Had a Beginning?

By moving from your question to mine, I’m assuming we both share a logical and rational common ground: that creation has a beginning.

◙ For the believer in a Creator, this premise poses no issue.
◙ And even if you’re an atheist, the question still stands: Do you agree that there was a beginning to creation?

Terminology aside — whether you call it “creation,” “emergence,” or anything else — the essence remains the same: we are referring to the moment everything began.

Two Logical Options, No Third

Creation has no beginning:
Then your question “Who created the Creator?” collapses. Because if nothing was ever created, then there is no “creation,” no “creator,” and therefore no place for your question.

Creation has a beginning:
Even modern science — via the Big Bang Theory — points to a definite beginning for time, space, and matter. Estimated: 13.8 billion years ago.

So even if you don’t call it “creation,” you agree that everything started at some point.
Thus, you’re implicitly acknowledging that a creation occurred.

So What is Creation?

Let’s go deeper. “Creation” can mean two things:
1. The created entities themselves (things).
2. The concept of creation — the very idea or capacity to create.

In this reflection, we’re focused not on the created things, but on the concept of creation itself — as an idea that must precede any act of creation.

So the next question is:
Does the concept of creation truly exist?

Clearly, yes — we use it constantly: “Who made this car?” “Who built that?” And your own question is living proof of its real presence.
To deny the existence of the concept while using it is a contradiction.

When Did the Concept of Creation Begin?

If creation has a beginning, and the concept of creation is real — then:
The concept of creation must exist before any created thing.

Because no first thing can be created without the prior idea or potential for “creation.”
Thus, the concept of creation precedes all things.

This leads to a subtle but vital conclusion:
You cannot ask “Who created X?” unless the concept of creation already exists.
And if the concept did not yet exist — your question itself becomes impossible.

So: if something existed before the concept of creation, you cannot ask “Who created it?”

How Did the Concept of Creation Arise?

Three possible answers:

1. The concept is the Creator:
That implies you’ve admitted the existence of a Creator — not just as a being but as a concept or force — and thus answered your own question. Yet this explanation is logically blurry, since a concept can’t create itself.

2. The concept was the first thing created:
Then something (a Creator) existed before it — one who is not created, by your own logic.

3. The concept of creation is a quality of the Creator:
This is the most coherent view:
The Creator has, inherently, the capacity to create — as part of His essence. He didn’t “acquire” the concept — it belongs to Him.

What If You Say: Ideas Need Minds to Exist?

A materialist might argue:
“Concepts like ‘creation’ don’t exist independently — they only arise in human minds.”

My response:
Do you think the Creator made the universe without knowing He was doing so?

If yes → you’re saying the Creator has no consciousness or intent, which means He is not a Creator in any meaningful sense.
If no → then the concept of creation was present in His awareness.

So either you acknowledge He is aware, and the concept is part of Him — or deny His existence altogether.

But Can There Be “Before” Without Time?

Good point. If time began with the Big Bang, how can we say anything existed “before” creation?

The answer:
We don’t mean before in time, but prior in logic.

Time itself is a created dimension. The concept of creation — or the Creator — is not bound by time.
It is logically prior, not temporally prior.
So we are speaking of a non-temporal origin — an existence or cause beyond time.

Final Thought: Even the Multiverse Needs a First Concept

Some claim: “There is no single creation — only a multiverse, an infinite bubbling of worlds.”

But even if there are countless universes, they are still structured, knowable, and bound by rules.
That means they all operate under some unifying concept — some creative logic.

So the question returns:
Who created the concept of creation itself?
Who designed the law, the logic, the possibility?

And there, again, we encounter the same truth:
There must be a source beyond everything —
uncreated, timeless, origin of origin.

💬 What do you think?
Is there a logical escape from the concept of an uncreated source?